tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111780890240797163.post2513116688118763145..comments2012-12-07T07:25:11.752-08:00Comments on Feetwashing and Four Square: Remember the healersNicohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17430817984366224109noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111780890240797163.post-80724818689905351692011-02-16T12:49:40.894-08:002011-02-16T12:49:40.894-08:00I keep making connections back to this blog as I&#...I keep making connections back to this blog as I'm reading for Brethren Beliefs and Practices for this weekend. In particular I just read about the Sauers and how they lost their business and property b/c they wouldn't fight in the Revolutionary War. Interesting stuff. <br />We're not talking about taking up arms of course but when our rhetoric reaches the vitriolic we do have to wonder like Marla says if there isn't a third way. I see lots of our denominational leaders striving for that and I have to say their cool under all this pressure makes me very proud to be part of this tradition. I wrote a paper this fall (for a Scott Holland class) on striving for "prophetic compromise" in which not all of our ultimate goals might be met but we would make strides toward justice and wholeness by meeting each other in the middle. It's tough work and it doesn't make either side happy but I think it's worth it in the end.Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08673405646485394848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111780890240797163.post-47224256975467077172011-02-15T08:18:23.805-08:002011-02-15T08:18:23.805-08:00I think that leaders may seek for a third way in t...I think that leaders may seek for a third way in the midst of division. I see John Kline as keeping peace between North and South...thanks for pointing him out. <br />Where are the people who look for a place that can make both sides say, "Yes, we can probably sign on to that."?Marlanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111780890240797163.post-67213747390981539252011-02-15T06:59:57.595-08:002011-02-15T06:59:57.595-08:00Good point, Travis. I'm sure it's a const...Good point, Travis. I'm sure it's a constant struggle for persons in leadership, discerning in what ways to take a stand and in what ways to defer to the need for relationships. The difference, I suppose, between expressing a viewpoint and "taking up arms," though I've offered no real distinction here.<br /><br />Something I always wrestle with is the use of visual identifiers, like the rainbow scarves that have been frequenting Annual Conference. Is it a constructive show of solidarity and support, or a way of drawing battle lines? Inviting or distancing?Nicohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17430817984366224109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111780890240797163.post-4948030765512846722011-02-14T19:17:06.541-08:002011-02-14T19:17:06.541-08:00Great thoughts. I think there may be times for lea...Great thoughts. I think there may be times for leaders to take stands too. John Kline, after all, was annual meeting moderator, and one of the elders who signed on to a letter to Brethren in Virginia encouraging them to renounce slavery.Travishttp://blog.travispoling.com/noreply@blogger.com